tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post6614039460325123415..comments2024-03-28T06:05:17.085-04:00Comments on THE READING APE: Friday Forum: Advertising, Attention, and Book Blogsthe Apehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14060965283007759623noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-45867082076651364252013-06-05T13:44:18.987-04:002013-06-05T13:44:18.987-04:00Fοr women with anԁгοgenic alοpeciа, it is impοrtan...Fοr women with anԁгοgenic alοpeciа, it is impοrtant to note that theѕe <br />ρrograms and reading theіr tеstіmonіаls ωere amazing.<br />Tacоma, Paгkland, and Lakewood are some of the excellent safetу featurеs рroѵided by this bad car loаn Ϻ5.<br /><br /><br />my blоg - <a href="http://shoeclimax.com/beta/members/rafaelaqu/activity/85733" rel="nofollow">hogsett</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-9007552824826349972013-05-26T05:51:22.480-04:002013-05-26T05:51:22.480-04:00Morale Booster: Being Confident with mass effect a...Morale Booster: Being Confident with mass effect all 3 gamesHave you seen the smile on a child.<br /><br />Isometric scrolling beat-'em-up captures the feel of a live game even more. 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What sites like Bizulu show is that an engaging and entertaining auction process is nearly as important as the auction's winning bid.<br />Free-Press-Release and PRL og, as well.<br /><br />My blog post <a href="http://aydinayhan.nl/blogs/entry/Firms-Business-Can-Help" rel="nofollow">ethical search engine optimization</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-2958217288920281462011-09-17T13:15:51.234-04:002011-09-17T13:15:51.234-04:00Why not ask your readers to support you through do...Why not ask your readers to support you through donations? notesinamarginnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-55731764498059668662011-08-23T16:37:17.236-04:002011-08-23T16:37:17.236-04:00If advertising, in and of itself, is a bad thing, ...If advertising, in and of itself, is a bad thing, then the world has much bigger problems than the few little ads in the right hand column of your blog. I understand the debate in principle, but you've got a right to earn some cash. I doubt the little banner ad from Powell Books is going to make you start slamming their competition.Brad Wirzhttp://gonereading.com/site/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-58033458215094550502011-08-13T19:26:35.355-04:002011-08-13T19:26:35.355-04:00A blog you like?? YEA! You just made my day, Mr. J...A blog you like?? YEA! You just made my day, Mr. John Warner.<br /><br />Now I can address the topic: I feel the same way you and Ellen do. I like the bookish ads. Now - there are some book blogs that have crazy, non-related ads that blink and have music and distract me. Those I don't like. As in ads elsewhere, tasteful and well-placed ones work well for me.Jennhttp://www.thepickygirl.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-35718054017653328242011-08-13T17:43:23.227-04:002011-08-13T17:43:23.227-04:00hmmm...as i read all the book blogs i follow on my...hmmm...as i read all the book blogs i follow on my rss feed, i almost never see any ads. I don't have a problem with them at all; i have a problem when the blog's content becomes ads for various products (not books, or music or movies) the blogger likes. an occasional "man, i love mcdonald's fries" is one thing, it is a different experience entirely when the blogger's posts become "why the Thundershirt is great", "you should totally buy an Abroller" and "help me sell herbalife!". once a blogger goes there, i stop reading.Melanie Ivanoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-21471313923808406502011-08-13T12:05:00.797-04:002011-08-13T12:05:00.797-04:00I do not mind advertising on book blogs as long as...I do not mind advertising on book blogs as long as:<br /><br />1. The advertising does not completely determine the book bloggers' choice of which books to review etc. What draws me to certain bloggers are their unique views and choice as demonstrated by the books that they read and review, even if I'm not necessarily drawn to those books.<br /><br />2. the ads do not interfere with the process of reading the blog posts. Some of your ads flash on the screen several times and this is distracting. <br /><br />There is nothing wrong with generating a bit of income to support what we do as book bloggers. kinna readshttp://twitter.com/kinnareadsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-14504335937167800472011-08-12T14:36:35.584-04:002011-08-12T14:36:35.584-04:00I think that the perceived integrity of the site h...I think that the perceived integrity of the site has a lot to do with how ads are received by the audience as well. If I'm reading a site that I already like and trust because of the content, I'm more likely to pay attention to the ad. Knowing that clicking on the ad may help support the site I enjoy, makes me even more likely to act.John Warnerhttp://twitter.com/biblioraclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-90506143119126416592011-08-12T13:26:28.693-04:002011-08-12T13:26:28.693-04:00If I'm at a blog about video games, I want to ...If I'm at a blog about video games, I want to see video game ads. If I'm at a food blog, I want to see food/cooking/restaurant ads. It seems ineffective for advertisers to advertise to people who may or may not be interested in what they're selling. If you're a publisher though, and you advertise on a book blog, at least you know that you're reaching people who read. It's all about relevance. I love that on Hulu they ask if the ad is relevant to you. That's an important question I think. <br /><br />I have had local businesses ask about advertising on my blog (which has a bit of a local angle), and I've said no. Recently, though, I hit on the idea of doing sponsored book recommendations. That's the only way I can get my head around it. CassandraNeacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-86582410911490980182011-08-12T13:16:53.482-04:002011-08-12T13:16:53.482-04:00I think those questions if the ads seem to overtak...I think those questions if the ads seem to overtake the blog, and if the blogger offers little content and doesn't engage very deeply. I never thought it about your blog because you're clearly in it for the conversation. So in your case, the ads are a side accessory. Why not get a bit of cash for your writing? I don't see it as a problem at all, and I don't care one way or another if they're present on the blog. <br /><br />I am equally suspicious of ads on major publications, with all the caveats outlined above. If the site seems to be a place-holder for the ads, around which someone has posted a bit of book talk, I raise an eyebrow. If it's a valuable site with a few ads, I don't think much about the ads, again reasoning that the writer has a right to be paid. One is an effort to be paid for hard work; the other is an effort to lure me into an inevitably shallow conversation so a profit can be made of my time. Jillianhttp://jillianreadsbooks2.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-303854291078318632011-08-12T13:02:38.076-04:002011-08-12T13:02:38.076-04:00I was going to mention that I've been seeing t...I was going to mention that I've been seeing the ad for "Glitter Scene" from Other Press all over (on your blog and Rebecca's, I think), which is helping to keep this book - which I've been curious about - on my mind. God only knows if I'll still remember it a year from now when I'm actually able to buy it, but I do appreciate well-aimed ads like that one.Ellen Rhudyhttp://fatbooks.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-42688082770158669252011-08-12T13:01:43.674-04:002011-08-12T13:01:43.674-04:00Totally agree here. Hell, I've bought a couple...Totally agree here. Hell, I've bought a couple of books that I saw as ads here. As I wrote in my post about the ad-subsidized Kindle, I think efficient advertising opportunities for books and publishers serves a very real readerly and writerly need. The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-26868980696455977902011-08-12T13:00:25.429-04:002011-08-12T13:00:25.429-04:00I see the possibility of those questions. I wonder...I see the possibility of those questions. I wonder, do you think of those questions or is this a hypothetical? Do you think people ask these questions of major publications or are blogger ads more suspect for some reason?<br /><br />And, if I had my way, I wouldn't see ads either. I also wouldn't pay for movies or do the dishes. But, the way the world works, ads make many of the things I like possible. The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-70589238072146318822011-08-12T12:59:34.304-04:002011-08-12T12:59:34.304-04:00I'm not sure...I think when I started doing my...I'm not sure...I think when I started doing my blog I saw some distinction between "professional" book blogs (the big ones with ads, giveaways, whatever) and ones by people like me. Doing the blog for nearly a year now, I don't really see that line anymore - since even those blogs I used to look at as being more than, I don't know, a hobbyist blog, seem more accessible to me than they used to. It might also be that more people have been putting up ads and becoming affiliates so I'm more used to seeing them (like Alley says, I'm so used to ads that I barely notice them), or that I'm just reading more blogs now that happen to do those things.Ellen Rhudyhttp://fatbooks.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-78551150729890832812011-08-12T12:58:01.577-04:002011-08-12T12:58:01.577-04:00What if you posted a review of a book that was adv...What if you posted a review of a book that was advertised on your site? I am sure I will run into this at some point. I think I could see how someone might raise an eyebrow to a really favorable review, though at this point the stakes for something like this are so small as to make any such bias sort of absurd.The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-38450885226810808922011-08-12T12:56:44.313-04:002011-08-12T12:56:44.313-04:00I was going to mention that there are several ways...I was going to mention that there are several ways of reading blogs that dodge the ads. (instapaper, browser extensions, email, RSS). This is actually a bit of a problem for people who really want to maximize their ad revenue.The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-14544191685001829252011-08-12T12:55:29.162-04:002011-08-12T12:55:29.162-04:00I do think there is a right way and a wrong way to...I do think there is a right way and a wrong way to do ads, but I think that's a question of execution rather than of mere existence. The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-44411700770818441032011-08-12T12:54:25.803-04:002011-08-12T12:54:25.803-04:00Yea, I can't speak to the utility of ads. I as...Yea, I can't speak to the utility of ads. I assume they must yield something, else advertisers wouldn't use them. Be interested if a literary advertiser would speak openly about the effectiveness of advertising on blogs.The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-47765340763533638372011-08-12T12:53:22.540-04:002011-08-12T12:53:22.540-04:00Can you say more about why you had to "come a...Can you say more about why you had to "come around"? I am honestly trying to understand the counter-position as best I can.The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-65380151558922641422011-08-12T12:52:45.292-04:002011-08-12T12:52:45.292-04:00That's interesting. I never really thought abo...That's interesting. I never really thought about ad-relevance. Why does being "off-topic" annoy yo?The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-55765531688766101012011-08-12T12:52:03.932-04:002011-08-12T12:52:03.932-04:00Thanks for saying it for me.
The most reasonable...Thanks for saying it for me. <br /><br />The most reasonable concern, as far as I understand it, is that being compensated per page-view will change the kinds of things a blogger writes about. I haven't found this to be true. <br /><br />The other concern is more conspiratorial, that in order to protect an advertiser relationship, a review or commentary will be compromised in some way. This seems a bit tin-foil hat to me.The Reading Apehttp://thereadingape.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-90161780146189882572011-08-12T12:41:52.657-04:002011-08-12T12:41:52.657-04:00I'll go so far as to say that I "like&quo...I'll go so far as to say that I "like" ads on book blogs, provided they're unobtrusive, and relevant to the subject matter of the blog. For example, at this very moment, there's an ad for Domestic Violets running, a book I hadn't heard about previously. It put it on my radar. Minutes later, I'm catching up at another blog I like (The Picky Girl) and see that she has a very positive review of the book, and now it's officially on my radar as something I'm going to, at the very least, sample. I don't think I would've taken note of this book otherwise. John Warnerhttp://twitter.com/biblioraclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-15906607159974637972011-08-12T12:16:54.716-04:002011-08-12T12:16:54.716-04:00I think there's a tendency to question a blogg...I think there's a tendency to question a blogger's motives, when one sees ads on a book blog. What is this blogger's priority? The conversation? The discovery of literature? Is this blogger putting the ads first and writing material around the ads to gain followers who will click and make him money, or is the blogger focused on the blog itself, and using the ads as an added benefit? (The latter being understandable, and not an issue, in my mind.)<br /><br />People don't like advertising. Well, I don't. I don't mind a commercial in the midst of a show I'm watching, but I dislike an ad that fills up half the screen in the middle of the show I'm watching, and flashes and moves and distracts me from the actual show. Ads seem to be doing that lately -- creeping from their every fifteen minutes agreed-upon moment in the lights, and taking over the entire viewing experience.<br /><br />So a couple ads? No, not a problem. But people may view them suspiciously, as one would a still spider in the corner of the room. :-)Jillianhttp://jillianreadsbooks2.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5410373290265879019.post-27261146245070517162011-08-12T11:09:11.538-04:002011-08-12T11:09:11.538-04:00I don't really care about advertising on blogs...I don't really care about advertising on blogs... I mean, yes, it makes the interface more cluttered, but so many blogs have tons of buttons and widgets that I'm used to ignoring all that stuff anyway. Plus, if you read blogs predominantly through a feed-reader, as I do, the ads aren't even an issue (nor is poor site design, which is not an issue in your case, but has certainly been a bother on other blogs!).Stephhttp://www.stephandtonyinvestigate.comnoreply@blogger.com